Skip to main content

Reply to this post | See parent post | Go Back
View Post [edit]

Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 10, 2011 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Keith is low in the mix'

I think that Keith (on E72) could be just a smidge louder, without any sacrifice of Weir, Pig et al... it's a very individual thing and a delicate art. (If Keith was at a 5, I'd go to 6.) Your point is well-taken though, regarding miking a piano vs. direct line thru guitars, the size of venues and the echo/reverberation problems each hall presents.

That said, I saw the band at some larger venues, late 70s... if you were on stage left/audience right, it was totally unbalanced - way too much Keith. Unbearable. Could not hear Weir at all. Sounded much like the recent 77 Broome County show someone posted, very jangley, brittle piano.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: jerlouvis Date: Nov 10, 2011 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Keith is low in the mix'

I can't claim any expertise on how the mix works or any of the other sonic questions,but as a listener I find the breakdown to be Jerry as the only lead instrument,Keith and Weir are main support players and regardless of Phil of playing a much more out front style bass,he and Billy should bring up the rear as rhythm sections usually do.My preference would be more of Keith and Weir's interplay with Jerry,than Phil's thumping bass,even turned down somewhat you should be able to hear Phil.If it comes down to Keith/Billy I am wiling to sacrifice some drums for more piano.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Nov 12, 2011 3:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Keith is low in the mix'

I do believe that in the early 70s the piano wasn't the easiest of instruments to both keep in tune and then to mike properly. Generally the piano was used as a rythem fill type of instrument . It was not meant to take the lead especially in this band like Elton, Billy Joel, Dr. John whose pianos were miked very differently as a lead instument.
As a side note if you notice on the WOS set up the side speakers are called piano fills so Jerry and whom ever had the other one could gage what was going on w/ Keith.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: questionoflife Date: Nov 12, 2011 4:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Keith is low in the mix'

I think this problem carried on beyond the 70s, as evidenced by early 90s soundboards from the Bruce/Vince era. I usually need to strain my ear to hear Bruce, but--try as a may--I have yet to hear a recording where Vince is buried in the mix.